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Scipio Artelius
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Posted - 2014.04.20 06:58:00 -
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Before Doc arrives and furiously points his finger at OOPE, I'm going to post this here first, in the hope that a few people read it and decide to vote before it's moved to die an unread death out of GD.
While you may sit on any side of the fence in relation to in game issues, please take a couple of minutes to read the linked blog post and help a fellow player out with just a few minutes of your time:
http://www.minerbumping.com/2014/04/vote-avalloc.html
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Posted - 2014.04.20 15:15:00 -
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Miss Furry wrote:Anyways, I'm obviously intentionally not clicking said button for reasons already stated, and I'm well aware of the minimal amount of time it takes, to which a subtle nod was given by yourself.
Your view is quite clear and doesn't need to be challenged. I can totally respect the logic in relation to supporting someone that you don't know IRL over other people you also don't know IRL and there not being a way for you to make a personal decision in favour of anyone.
That's a completely reasonable position from my perspective.
At the same time, some of the other issues risk taking the thread off topic, which really isn't needed either. Hopefully this is where some of that discussion can nip itself so the main aim of this thread can continue.
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Posted - 2014.04.20 15:46:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:yea, it's sad when people gets what they worked hard for: status of unreliable source 
While I personally don't agree with your view, I also totally respect it and respect that you have a different opinion simply because of the link.
It is associated with an issue that is very polarising in the community and not everyone will look past that (or needs to look past that). All I could do was ask if it was possible.
However, having made your view clear, I would also ask that you consider accepting that you've made your point and move on. There isn't really anything positive in terms of the original purpose of the thread in continuing to discuss that aspect. There are a lot of other threads past (and many more likely in the future) to discuss those things.
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Posted - 2014.04.20 16:49:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:I guess that's the trouble with unfettered dishonesty, and advocating lack of integrity as a game mechanic. You post something like this and guess what...you expect to be believed. That is so funny. If it's true...IF it's true...heart rending story...IF it's true.
Too bad we all have to consider the source. Enjoy your miner bumping and ganking out there! We're pullin' for yah.
A link doesn't make it a lie that needs to be questioned with extra emphasis.
Avalloc has a need and if you can help that's great. If not, no problem, move on. No harm done.
The only real response I can post to your opinion is from your own bio:
"None shall be left to even pity those who have fallen in pursuit of their own ignorant imaginings. There will be no sorrow. They will simply fade."
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Posted - 2014.04.20 17:26:00 -
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Master Flakattack wrote:Ugh this minerbumping thing is so played out... ...Not even sure how this got called "emergent gameplay" in the first place, considering the miners have absolutely no legitimate way to counter it, but that's CCP for you.
Wrong thread.
This has nothing to do with minerbumping other than the site containing the link.
It's really not an issue of gankers, roleplay, emergent gaming, carebears, ship balance, or any other related in game aspect.
It's simply a thread about a member of the community in need and whether you can spare a few minutes to help. If not, no problem but don't turn the thread into something it isn't.
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Posted - 2014.04.20 17:45:00 -
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Saar Ynier wrote:So you're getting annoyed because people wont vote (and are against) for a guy who has made a bad in-game name for his self posted on a website that is pretty much there for epeen stroking and making fun of people???
The rest of your post, n problem from my perspective.
However on this part, what bad in-game name has Avalloc made for himself?
Here's a link to his z-killboard (which includes Condordekken events now): https://zkillboard.com/character/1282041313/page/1/
He's not a ganker, he doesn't live in highsec or give anyone a hard time.
He plays the game just the same as many, many other people play the game - with friends and without causing any stress or problems for other people.
Yet you've made a judgement that he's made bad in-game choices on what basis?
He's just a guy in need and members of the community have rallied around this as a way to help when for the most part, there is nothing we can do for him (or other members of the community in similar situations) on a daily basis.
Help or don't. That's totally your choice and whichever you chose is totally fine.
That's all that anyone can ask. But do you really need to express a judgement about him that seems to have no factual basis?
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Posted - 2014.04.20 18:08:00 -
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Saar Ynier wrote:Basically, people in this thread are being called out for not supporting this endevour due to the names the people and sites have made for them. They're then being treat with disdain because they have aired that opinion...
No one has a problem with anyones choice to either vote or not vote, for whatever reason. That's totally your choice.
The responses I have read relate not to people's choices, just to other issues expressed, that really aren't relevant to this thread.
In your case for example, you made a direct statement of judgement about the guy without any basis for doing so other than stereotype.
Your decision to vote or not, that's totally respected either way, but those other issues belong in different threads. They aren't at the core of what this one is about.
Glad you voted and like several people, it's clear what your broader opinion is. Hopefully that can be the end of it and the thread can stay on track about helping someone out, rather than some other in game issues he isn't really associated with (goons of course he is).
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Posted - 2014.04.21 03:45:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:Tomorrow I'm going to spill carebear blood in Eve in Avalloc's name. I was going to explode them anyway to be honest, but now *reasons*.
Malcolm, just like everyone else, I respect your opinion (and also found some of the comments at mb distasteful, but that's par for the course unfortunately).
At the end of the day however, the important thing is that as many people are motivated to vote as possible, because helping Avalloc gain more mobility is an outcome that everyone in the community, no matter whether they vote or not, could probably applaud if it happens.
I'm all for personal choice and personal responsibility in game - for all players. However, I hope your post above isn't read as a challenge or attack by others and the thread runs off topic.
It would be great if we can keep this focused on helping Avalloc and not turn it into a thread that descends into something else.
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Posted - 2014.04.21 04:00:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:You're right. My bad.
Nah, not bad really.
There have been a number of opposing views expressed in the thread. Some the other way were bound to happen too.
I'll just try to keep a lid on them if I can so the thread stays on topic as much as possible. But I'm no hall monitor and clearly everyone is free to express what they like.
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Posted - 2014.04.21 11:14:00 -
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Zeera Tomb-Raider wrote:The whole CSM is a bigg joke i...
I'm sometimes guilty of looking at a thread title and thinking that I know what the thread is about. It usually is.
So sorry to mislead you like that. I should have titled it something else to make it clearer.
Aside from that mistake on my part, are you going to vote for Avalloc (not for CSM, but to help him gain additional mobility and independence IRL)?
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Posted - 2014.04.22 10:49:00 -
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Miss Furry wrote:Alright, since the thread has been moved to the "doomed to extinction" forum, time to wind up the toy car and let go...
Why? The purpose or intent of the thread hasn't changed, only its location.
You made your opinion known early in the thread and it was a perfectly valid perspective.
The direction you've started the take the thread on this page is not needed one bit.
If you want to discuss those issues, create a thread and discuss them, but there is no need to bring them to a thread designed to help another player in the community.
They are perfectly valid things to raise and discuss, but a different thread is more appropriate.
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Posted - 2014.04.23 00:46:00 -
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Avalloc wrote:Thank you for the support, everyone. I feel blessed being a member of such an amazing community.
I think this is all we need to end the thread on.
It's a pity it was moved from GD to OOPE as most of the community won't actually see how appreciative Avalloc is for the support and realise that behind the keyboard is a real person who is both classy and a Goon.
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